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A wallhack problem
ImGonnaDJDate: Friday, 29/03/2013, 00:53:43 | Message # 1
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A few hours ago a conflict arose from some kind of a wallhack problem. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to turn this into flaming anyone, but though a couple of other members were playing, only two players witnessed the problem - me and Kasper. I only want to point at a possible wallhack problem. It's been there already, but because the conflict ended in an ugly way, I'd like to try find a solution to the problem.
It was a simple Goldrush map. Truck barrier #1. Kasper was on a balcony overlooking the health'n'ammo cabinets, while I was shooting him from quite a distance. He had to retreat behind a corner, but more bullets hit and killed him. He was upset, rightfully, and thought I was using wallhack. But the thing is - I do not. That's one. And two - I've had this problem before as well, I asked Sky about it when Boemklats killed me once and Sky said BK is a wallhacker. But hey, I've been playing here for ages and I think by now you'd know I don't cheat. Kasper didn't believe it, but I don't want to get into that, like I said. And I only wish I had video proof or something.
So, in a nutshell, - how come every once in a while a bullet still hits you around a corner even if the player who shot it does not wallhack? How can that be fixed?
Kasper... I hope you have a word on this as well. Really.



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iDalkoDate: Friday, 29/03/2013, 02:08:20 | Message # 2
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Well one thing is for sure, you seriously don't cheat (wallhack), cause you suck :DD

Now, that last "bullet" isn't fired through wall, but it's LAG. It sometimes happens to me too , that i get killed or i kill someone "behind the wall".

Don't worry about that, it's just that every once in a while a player gets a bit more lag than you, that's why he already sees himself behind the wall while you still see him in that fraction of a second when you fire that last bullet at him. It's even possible that you see him behind the wall already & still can hit him (kinda), but that's YOUR lag, or a mixed lag (:

So Kasper, if you're reading this, Gonna isn't cheating nor do any of our members, i can guarantee you that ^^.

& Gonna - no worries mate (:



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MeiziDate: Friday, 29/03/2013, 07:28:33 | Message # 3
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Kasper isn't member anymore so he can't probably see this.

But I'm not sure did I totally understand what you meant but you can't shoot through walls with wallhack, you can only see through walls with it.

But like dalko said, it's called lag and happens everyday to me. And you can also shoot someone who's leaning behind the corner because the there's a small part of enemy almost every time showing, even you cant see him biggrin

If you know you don't cheat, and other members knows you don't cheat then there's nothing to be worried about.



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WaRRioRDate: Friday, 29/03/2013, 10:48:17 | Message # 4
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Now, that last "bullet" isn't fired through wall, but it's LAG. It sometimes happens to me too , that i get killed or i kill someone "behind the wall".



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ImGonnaDJDate: Friday, 29/03/2013, 11:17:21 | Message # 5
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Phew smile Thanks folks smile

Does Kasper not visit the forum anymore? That's sad. Even though he didn't take that very well, I would still like to hear his say, because I'm all for constructive criticism.



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SeaturtleDate: Friday, 29/03/2013, 11:27:04 | Message # 6
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Yep, pretty weird that he thought you were wallhacking because of that, sometimes people whine to much in ET biggrin

And Dalko, you suck! And your fatass!



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iDalkoDate: Friday, 29/03/2013, 12:09:33 | Message # 7
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And Dalko, you suck! And your fatass!

:DD

& i don't think he can even see this topic cause of his leaving, he's not an ET member anymore, so.. maybe if you PM him or talk to him in the game (:



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SeaturtleDate: Friday, 29/03/2013, 16:31:32 | Message # 8
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Well as it seemed, you (DJ) and Kasper already discussed it alot? I think you guys can leave it by this, seen the reactions in the server yesterday and I don't really think it will get better if the case goes on. (Kasper asked if he could block pms :P)


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djukiDate: Saturday, 30/03/2013, 12:08:56 | Message # 9
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Walhack is a cheat that allows the user to see trough walls. That way he can see a player coming.
This here is not that case. Simple.
Lagg could be the case here. But there's also the "Hitboxes" to think about.



As you can see here there are boxes drawn arround the player. If you hit the box you hit the player. So the assumsion that if you can see the player that you can hit him doesnt isnt true! Asmlong as you can hit the box it'll count as a shot. ET simply works this way.
Hitboxes are biggers or smaller in other MODS. Even within a MOD you can vary the Hitbox sises.

Hope this explanes your situation



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WaRRioRDate: Saturday, 30/03/2013, 15:13:33 | Message # 10
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but the head box crosses the body box how do you than now it is a headshot or a bodyshot?


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ImGonnaDJDate: Sunday, 31/03/2013, 12:41:20 | Message # 11
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Well as it seemed, you (DJ) and Kasper already discussed it alot? I think you guys can leave it by this, seen the reactions in the server yesterday and I don't really think it will get better if the case goes on. (Kasper asked if he could block pms :P)
The next day he apologized and offered to leave this behind, BUT today an obviously similar problem happened (don't quote me on this though, I wasn't involved, nAab was) and again Kasper made fuss out of it.
I told him "Haven't we already discussed this?", and silence in reply.



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PuppetDate: Monday, 01/04/2013, 00:38:20 | Message # 12
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but the head box crosses the body box how do you than now it is a headshot or a bodyshot?

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JeeTzDate: Monday, 01/04/2013, 00:53:03 | Message # 13
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Like Djuki already mentioned, this is because of the hitboxes.
Silent mod uses modificated hitboxes but its still under work so lots of times its bugged.



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ImGonnaDJDate: Monday, 01/04/2013, 10:02:49 | Message # 14
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Yeah. I think we can close this, right?


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iDalkoDate: Monday, 01/04/2013, 10:48:41 | Message # 15
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