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Explanation of recruitment application
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| Fosgen[PL] | Date: Saturday, 14/04/2012, 13:41:11 | Message # 1 |
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| Quote (Dime from "How to make your vote.") 3. Dont vote for skills, vote for behavior, activity and application form!
While behavior and activity is everyones subjective understanding (some see something, some don't) and ppl give their feeling about these things, written application is entirely different thing.
App is almost like a document. If u want precise application, u need to give precise requirements. As we want to know more about recruits, we need to let them know we want it.
(digression on)
I know a man who given a question "do u know what time it is?", answers simply "yes". Not because he is stupid or uncommunicative, but because he thinks it's enough for an answer to your imprecise querring. True story.
(digression off)
My suggestion is to place in an app form some encouragement to write more, like:
"Tell us as much as you can/want about yourself. The more you write and the more interresting you do it, the more probably we'll accept your application".
"List 3 or more things u do for fun, and explain them to us. Maybe you'll find someone interrested in these activities among us.".
Something like above.
I write this because it's a pity when someone active and nice can't be accepted just by not writing as much as we want.
Secondly it'll save us time for asking applicant to write something more time and time again.
Maybe that's very idealistic, but I'm for trying this out.
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Message edited by Fosgen[PL] - Saturday, 14/04/2012, 13:48:28 |
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| Made | Date: Saturday, 14/04/2012, 13:48:09 | Message # 2 |
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| I have to disagree with you here.
In the past we approved people like frog, but what we got then was members who didn't spoke at all which made our community fall apart a bit.
The part: "it's a nice server with nice people" that's just to standard and way too easy. Of course it's a nice server otherwise you don't apply.
Your application was much better since you really convinced us to approve you. But saying that we have a nice server with nice players, that simply won't convince us. They should come with more to impress us.
We don't have to motivate them to motivate us.
If it is your friend, tell him to make a new apply which will motivate us!
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| Fosgen[PL] | Date: Saturday, 14/04/2012, 13:56:58 | Message # 3 |
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| No, Frog is not my friend.
He just got me thinking.
That's exactly why we need more precise questions in app form, I think.
Some ppl just answer dryly and don't know what to write about themselves. With more questions maybe they will get more creative.
In my case, the app questions made my chatter surface. I'd write more but my proff prohibits it.
I understand why we don't want to recruit ppl with bad, short, or dry application. But lets make them write more and then when they don't, shoot them away. :]
A few more questions rose in my mind.
What traits do we want the application to show? What ppl do we want in this clan? The app won't necessarily show us if someone is wise or productive.
As I understand application rules changed recently and it became more improtant for acception. Then with its increased improtance, wider app form should follow, imho.
Ofc I've been in this clan uncomparably shorter then most of u and maybe u've got this considered already. If so then I'll shut up. :]
(And I want to be undestood correctly, I don't want to incite a revolution here :] . I feel bad when with one simple Yes/No I throw someone away, when maybe this someone might write some more if app would be wider.)
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Message edited by Fosgen[PL] - Saturday, 14/04/2012, 14:29:44 |
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| Made | Date: Saturday, 14/04/2012, 14:07:30 | Message # 4 |
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| Well, what we can do is say that how larger the apply is, the more change that you will be approved. But we had the questions before and it didn't really worked out cause it was too easy. Since we are a big clan, we can be more specific, so we don't need that anymore.
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| Fosgen[PL] | Date: Saturday, 14/04/2012, 14:34:14 | Message # 5 |
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| Oh ok. It's a little pity though, but as I said, u've seen it already.
<Shutting up in progress...> :]
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Message edited by Fosgen[PL] - Saturday, 14/04/2012, 14:35:03 |
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| Foxy | Date: Saturday, 14/04/2012, 17:13:03 | Message # 6 |
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| Quote (Fosgen|PL|) "Tell us as much as you can/want about yourself. The more you write and the more interresting you do it, the more probably we'll accept your application".
"List 3 or more things u do for fun, and explain them to us. Maybe you'll find someone interrested in these activities among us.".
i think that sound pretty good tbh.
Quote (Made) members who didn't spoke at all which made our community fall apart a bit.
That's still going on btw...
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| Dime | Date: Saturday, 14/04/2012, 17:26:37 | Message # 7 |
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| ill tell you what, ill take this under consideration and to please both sides in this argument i could for starters modify that guideline to make applicant understand that application is really important to us, is this ok to you made and fosgen?
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| Weezy | Date: Saturday, 14/04/2012, 18:04:23 | Message # 8 |
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| yeah well i wouldnt exatlc ytell them that if that apply will be big they have bigger chance to get it but as dime said i would indicate that apply is rly importrant
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| Fosgen[PL] | Date: Saturday, 14/04/2012, 18:38:49 | Message # 9 |
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| Consideration is all I wanted to achieve through this topic.
I do not wish to force my idea.
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| Puppet | Date: Saturday, 14/04/2012, 18:46:15 | Message # 10 |
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| JaxTheRipper | Date: Saturday, 14/04/2012, 18:58:49 | Message # 11 |
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